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Inb4 furst, there you go misewy <3 --Frosty Mc Admin 11:59, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Unnecessary spam. Gtfo. ---Chaos is gay - 11:57, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

ilufrostels. Misery Says Moo 12:00, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Contents 1 /ave 2 Are you FUCKING RETARDED??? 3 Dear Misery, 4 Regarding the above section 5 "meaningful edit" 6 this talkpage isnt friendly enough currently 7 Image upload 8 Avatar 9 Trip

[edit] /ave

Earlier today, scientists discovered that the Large Hadron Collider was a $6 billion dollar sink whose price will only continue to climb as technical issues become apparent. Concerns were later dismissed after several international economic institutions pointed out that they've been bankrolling the U.S. (whose debt is estimated to be in the trillions) for years now in hopes that they might be able to keep the country out of bankruptcy long enough for someone competent to step in, and that at least the investments in the LHC could potentially provide huge scientific gains. ··· Danny Pew Pew 18:49, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

In other news, MediaWiki sites across the web have seen a steady increase in the number of "cranks" in recent months. Expert sources suspect that this may be related to middle-management job cuts, which may have forced many overbearing and cynical people to search for new locations in which they can flex their authoritarian muscles. ··· Danny Pew Pew 18:49, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

No need to be an expert to conclude that :> ---Chaos is gay - 18:53, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Are you FUCKING RETARDED???

So, I get a text from my likkle brother today in my Macroeconomics class. "Hai, I was using your account and I got perma-banned for sock-puppeting." I can't believe this. XxShadowofDarknessXx is my little brother, congrats for figuring that out. You are a fucking moron if you think that he is me however. Just because someone uses the same IP address does not mean they are a sockpuppet. If I was socking I would have used a different IP address/proxy, but that's beside the point. The point is you don't 'think' when you ban people. If you were even remotely intelligent you would have examined his ratings/posts in which you could easily have seen that he has a completely different personality/writing style then I do. I was trying to be transparent, I thought that if he made an account he could use the same IP without some fucktarded admin banning him (or me!) for sockpuppeting. However, I will change my password so he can't use my account again without me knowing about it, that was just stupid of him. I expect you to revert my ban and his with an apology. Fuck you, idiot.

-Psychiatric Consultant

I think it was the "he's my friend... oh wait no.. he's my brother" part that actually defined the ban. If it is your brother, why bother even mentioning the former. - AthrunFeya 02:48, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

why would your brother text you saying he was using your account instead of his? misery couldn't have seen a difference in writing styles (not that he would have checked, but humour me) if he was using both accounts, which is against the rules regardless. Gringo 03:00, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW 72.94.131.232 03:01, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Misery obviously has down syndrome because you're so bad you can't read policy or keep your nigger brother in check Shazzydiddles 03:04, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

this is especially amusing to read while looking at your picture in hawt or not :> — μαφλεσ 05:15, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

I can't control what my brother does, Sorry. You can go screw yourself Shazzy. However, Misery is an admin. Admin's aren't supposed to throw around perma-bans to people they "think might possibly be" sockpuppets. I know my brother was violation PvX wiki policy, so ban him for however many weeks or whatever, but don't call him my sockpuppet or ban MY account for what HE does. Its better to err on the side of NO BAN rather then on the side of PERMA-BAN. Power-crazy admins are FTL.

-Psych

Cool, a brand new story. You are responsible for the actions of your account. If you let your brother use your account, you are responsible for the outcome. If he guessed or stole your password, you are still responsible for the actions of your account. Now you are socking to breach PvX:NPA. Enjoy your extension. Feel free to contest your ban off wiki. I'm sure Auron or any other member of the admin team will be very understanding. You are not permanently banned, your "brother" is. Being transparent would have been telling us exactly what was going on from the start, not having pissing matches with each other on talk pages. Misery Says Moo 06:17, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

You got banned for a week. Stop choking on your "brother's" cock for a minute so your brain can get some oxygen. It wasn't a "might possibly be," it was a "lol it's the same fucking IP address." If you both really, really care about having your own accounts, email Misery with your facebooks or something otherwise convincing and I'm sure he'll consider it. (Don't worry. He's not a pedophile. Even if he was, his current residence in Germany would make it difficult for him to attempt to rape you.) Admins, especially around here, can ban whoever they want for whatever reason. If you look at the block log, you'll see plenty of examples. If another admin thinks the first admin was wrong, they'll unban you. Until then, refer to the second sentence of this paragraph and consider your options.

Also, stop evading your ban to violate NPA or you're going to look like even more of a massive shitter than you already do.

Love,

··· Danny Pew Pew 06:20, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Furthermore, umad? ~ Big sysop 06:21, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Look just cause you got a dual personality disorder dosen't mean you create 2 accounts then blame it on your "brother/friend/other personality". I know one thing one of you's have tourette syndrome...seek help--X 10:11, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

put simply, we have no way of knowing if it is infact your brother, or even if you have a brother, all we know is that there are 2 accounts editing from the same IP address, which is an issue given our vetting system. As long as you and your brother don't vote on the same builds, then we can let you both edit. You also have to realise, that like Misery said, you are responsible for what happens on your account, make sure that you're the only one with access to it. ~ PheNaxKian talk 11:09, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Well, we could do things that way, but that would be a privilege. One that I am unwilling to grant when I am being lied to and personally attacked. Psychiatric Consultant is free to attempt to convince me or any admin that we should grant him special treatment, but considering his second account seemed to be used largely to argue with himself, I'm disinclined. Misery Says Moo 11:16, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Actually, iirc quite a few "brothers" have been given permission to carry on as long as they don't vote on the same builds. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 11:17, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Yeh, but they usually don't use each others accounts and argue with each other, but if like Misery said, the second (or other) account is used just to argue with the other, we probably won't unblock them (unless like Misery said, they can convince an admin). ~ PheNaxKian talk 11:23, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

I really doubt that anyone would create socks just to have attention on his talk :o ---Chaos- (talk) -- 11:29, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Actually, damn that, this is too weird crap for being made by a pair of brothers. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 11:34, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Ya see, I did actually like look through their contributions and shit before blocking. At the moment I have told PC to chill for a week, then it got extended a couple days for ban evasion. I think I am being entirely reasonable. Misery Says Moo 12:02, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Damn you actually "looked into it?" I am sure Big would of banned just on sure stupidity without looking. Misery is strong admin. Hey you should of handed this one off to Toren so he could learn--X 12:58, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Tbh I linked it to Toraen's MSN to start with, and he just asdf'd at not having checkuser. I posted it on AN seconds later, and Misery was quick to fix the situation. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 13:05, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

look mama i haz dizorderz 2 ---Chaos- (talk) -- 10:17, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Dear Misery,

/wave. This is XxShadow of DarknessxX. Look, please excuse my brother, he was just kinda pissed. And, yes, he really is my brother. The biggest reason you gave for me being a "sockpuppet" was that I originally lied about Psych being my brother and said he was my friend. This is because if I had said he was my brother it would have made some things I said earlier seem a little wierd, even though it was all in good fun. Truth is my and my bro were bored one day so we decided to confuse the crap out of the PvX community by NPAing each other a bunch because we had never spoken to one another and hardly ever talked on the same builds and all of the sudden we have some sort of huge problem with each other. Now, I know everyone here rides the short bus and I thought you might have taken our good fun wrongly so I said he was my friend. Then you hit me with the same ip thing and I told the truth and got perma-banned. Thanks alot. Neways, we don't play GW andymore because of a certain event that took place that I do not have to explain to you, all you need to know is that we just don't play anymore. Yes, that means we are theorycrafting nobs nao, but w/e.

So I would like to make a new account that won't post from the same ip, vote on the same builds, or interact with Psych at all. Also, what kind of a bi-polar paranoid schitzophreic woul you have to be to make sock just to argue w/yourself. That's absolutely retarded, and ridiculous and doesn't make any sense at all. I tried to make a new acct already but Frosty McRetard banned my school's ip because "sockpuppet of Shadow of Darkness, avoiding ban". I didn't get banned, my brother did for socking, I am a different person, also how can a nonexistent sock have a sock of it's own? :/ Yeah, so Ima make a new acct from this ip, plz don't ban it.

you can't just say "i declare bankruptcy" and expect anything to happen (ie, dont expect us to believe you're brothers because you say so). methinks u need proof. Gringo 16:46, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

The office is awesome...Sock Puppetmaster 16:47, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

(ECx2)I banned the account because the IP had edits from Shadow of Darkness, therefore it would make sense for it to be a sockpuppet, and you would have been banned anyway, since either one of you was avoiding the ban... You really should just do the simple thing and hit me or Misery or any other admin up via E-Mail or MSN, that way the drama stays off PvX and stuff like this gets sorted a whole lot quicker, but you addressed this to Misery, so lets see what he has to say about all this nonsense. --Frosty Mc Admin 16:50, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

Ok, here is what I am going to do. I am going to ban this new account of yours with a ban to match your "brother"s. Then you are both going to wait out your bans, which come on the basis of disruption, which was intentional whether or not you are the same person, you pretty much admit that above, then you can both come back, act like different people, keep off each other's builds, keep off each other's IPs and do not use PvX as a personal playground where you two can insult each other or otherwise fuck about. I am certain that you have other methods of communication open to you. If you have any questions or problems with this solution, my email address, which I also use for msn messenger, is listed on the admin page. A lot of this could have been avoided if you had both handled it differently, live and learn I suppose. Misery Says Moo 17:18, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

wait, what? So the story now is they are brothers and the friend was to cover up the talk about incest on the talk page. Viable but lolfunny - AthrunFeya 17:20, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

It didn't really change, you just missed that part and they screwed up with lying ;o ---Chaos- (talk) -- 17:23, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

Nonono. As it was, we knew they could be brothers, if incest (or general retardation) was involved. Apparently saying it was his friend covers over the former. - AthrunFeya 17:33, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

Wow....glad this happend now even I look good--X 17:35, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

ARRRRGH..... D.R.A.M.A ... O.V.E.R.L.O.A.D ... H.E.A.D ... E.X..P...L....O.....A......D....(Insert obnoxiously loud noise here)--Α--йĨйƏҒỉйGƏЯş--Ω 17:56, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

Wall of drama; too autistic, didn't care :o ---Chaos- (talk) -- 18:15, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding the above section

1. Don't call admins retards. If they were retarded, we wouldn't have made them admins. (BMs, on the other hand, are an entirely different category in some cases.)
2. Most people here don't actually ride the short bus. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that the average I.Q. around here is over 100, which really says something. However, this says nothing about common sense, something which most people around here lack. Thus, my preferred insult of "autist." (Although, most people around here have taken to using "autist" to mean "retarded.")
3. If you get banned, appeal. If that appeal fails, stop crying and suck it up.

Cheers,

··· Danny Pew Pew 21:10, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

Your first point is invalid. 82.75.192.76 21:31, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

No, you're just a shitter. Refer to point 1. ··· Danny Pew Pew 21:33, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

You're a faggot, Frv was awsome. 72.94.131.232 02:45, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

You're a noober; Frv was a nice guy but had no business being an admin on any level whatsoever. The kid really knew how to bend over, pucker up, brace for impact, and really take it from regular old users asking for bans and shit on other regular users who were probably retarded themselves, moreso than the guy who asked Frv to ban the 2nd guy because the 1st guy could play the system. Also, dropping by to say hello, Mizzles! —ǥrɩɳsɧƴɖɩđđɭɘş 02:50, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

cool story bro 72.94.131.232 04:19, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

I sense the strength of a smith in this thread. Greetings great Gronchensmith. Misery Says Moo 06:38, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Hi Grinch!----ﮎHædõ๘یíɳ 16:51, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

/wave. on another note, wiki is quite drawl with an inactive misery--Relyk 03:25, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

spice it up by jumping off a cliff relyk. Gringo 04:43, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

Hi Relyk, diaf. Misery Says Moo 06:49, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

lol. ··· Danny Pew Pew 19:44, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

Meh im used to it by now and im not being a little bitch over the interwebs but the use of 'Autist' is offensive to someone like myself with autism but who gives a shit DIOS 18:44, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

oh but danny claims to have invented the word autist (i quote "i was the first to say it and everyone else followed), so its ok! Gringo 21:16, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Tbh, you sound much more intelligent then a lot of the people around here. --Frosty 21:57, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] "meaningful edit"

I'll accept it was a retarded definition (I didn't like how it sounded either). However that is what a meaningful edit is as far as the system is concerned, iirc a page will still show up in Special:graceexpired if it has only been receiving minor edits, regardless of size (i could be wrong, it's not something I've tested). As such i felt it worth noting, so someone doesn't do all this work only to have it (re-)tagged because they had minor edit on. ~ PheNaxKian talk 10:08, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Are you two going to start a flame war over a definition that really didn't make sense to begin with? If so, carry on. ~ Big sysop 10:51, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

I accept that is the definition within the system, but it shouldn't be the definition within policy. In theory we should be manually checking history. I realise we are lazy and won't always do that, but that is what the policy should say. I would be fine with a note saying "Note, the build will not be automatically removed from GraceExpired unless an edit is made without 'Minor edit' ticked". But really, people should just remove the tag if they make a meaningful edit. Misery Says Moo 11:36, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] this talkpage isnt friendly enough currently

allow me to fix that for you

http://www.sonolta.com/sony-photos/d/1020-3/_DSC2291_beautiful+white+kitten

Tab 10:40, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

I can always count on finding someones page that is gonna make me Daww.--Ikimono "...And my axe!" 04:36, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Image upload

"The upload directory (public) is missing and could not be created by the webserver." huh?--Relyk 08:07, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Ya know, that sounds like a server side problem, which is probably within the domain of wikia staff rather than a random admin like me. You can try bugging User:TOR or User:Angela or even popping on to the PvXwiki:Wikia noticeboard. Maybe wait an hour or two to see if it sorts itself first. Misery Says Moo 08:57, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

i honestly don't think they check the noticeboard (i told them we made one but considering most of the issues still exist...) ~ PheNaxKian talk 11:08, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

You say that like we ever resolve issues on our noticeboard... Misery Says Moo 12:46, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

What noticeboard? --Frosty 13:29, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

finally--Relyk 07:32, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Misery wouldn't bother to hold the rope. At best he might staple you to the floor. The phrase "die in a fire" is intended to mean "go die painfully of your own accord because i dislike you so much that i can't be bothered to kill you myself." Or, at least, that's what I've always understood it to mean. ··· Danny Pew Pew 21:13, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Hello Danny. Misery Says Moo 21:19, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

/ave ··· Danny Pew Pew 21:31, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

FYI----X 00:49, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

I thought Die in a Fire meant, Die in a Fire, maybe I am weird like that. --Frosty 00:50, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you X, I missed that. Also why are you posting that here? Thunda 00:51, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Best shot of getting Kyler banded is through Mis----X 00:56, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

o i c wut u did thar. Thunda 01:00, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

No Frosty, you are terribly mistaken. ··· Danny Pew Pew 01:06, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

This pic fails on many levels but the one where the death didn't happen in the fire but by strangulation. Really by the time he was lowered into the fire he would be dead already....hardly death by fire----X 01:42, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

I'm not exactly sure how long it takes to die of strangulation if the neck doesn't break. In this case, the neck wouldn't break, because he was just gently lifted up. If he can get occasional air while hanging up there, the death could at least be quite painful, seeing how suffocation is one of the worse deaths there are. Not to mention the fire. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 12:36, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

takes about 15 minutes for a 180 pound man, upwards of 25 for someone who weighs under 100 pounds. Gringo 16:41, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Lovely last minutes. I heard that when you burn to death, it's actually the smoke that kills you. His lungs would feel painful as hell, even quite literally taken :>

Happen to know how fast he'd die/faint from the loss of oxygen due to the smoke? ---Chaos- (talk) -- 20:54, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

And how do you know this? o.o Thunda 21:06, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Bad question ;o I would've known it too had I bothered to find out. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 21:08, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

I know a lot of shit i guess. Not just made up either, those numbers are accurate (although they vary per person). Not sure about smoke inhalation, although i'd assume he would die in under 5 minutes with the combined restricted oxygen to the brain + smoke inhalation. Gringo 21:09, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

And taking into account Relyk is like under half the age. ----~Short~ 21:12, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

very true, for a 5 year olds body its probably about 30-60 seconds. Gringo 21:14, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

But his massive chin would cut the rope.... ----~Short~ 21:19, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Strangulation isn't a terribly painful way to go, actually. If you've ever been choked out, you'll know that after the first 45 seconds or so you just feel really high and start to slip into unconsciousness. ··· Danny Pew Pew 21:53, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

afaik it only takes 20 seconds to black out (while being strangulated), although under water or under the influence of alcohol the times can vary widely. maybe it seems like 45 seconds when its happening, that or they were doing it wrong. Gringo 21:58, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

it depends quite a bit on lung capacity and how well they close off your veins, although i will say it probably just feels longer, too. ··· Danny Pew Pew 22:02, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Danny should be the only one commenting since they rest of u make retarded comments. and it would be "not worth killing you myself"--Relyk 23:18, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

I believe you are not in the position to say who makes retarded comments and who doesn't. You are also wrong. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 10:53, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

I can well hold my breath for longer than 20 seconds, when exactly does the measuring of time start? ---Chaos- (talk) -- 10:53, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

You would needa really stong neck muscles to prevent yourself from being strangulated. Thouse skinny week ass muscles of Relyk couldn't keep him alive that long...1 min tops----X 11:06, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

its got nothing to do with holding your breath chaos, they are cutting off the bloodflow of your brain through your jugular in the right side of your neck. Gringo 16:46, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

With getting hanged, yes, I figured out something like that. But drowning has ;o ---Chaos- (talk) -- 10:27, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

@Relyk:diaf
@Everyone else:STFU. Misery Says Moo 12:50, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Mo --Crow 16:51, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

csk, co :> Misery Says Moo 17:07, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Misery, please tell me how you attract this much retarded conversation to a talk page.  Thomas So Dutch  22:05, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Don't know. Misery Says Moo 00:50, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

He's just attractive. —ǥrɩɳsɧƴɖɩđđɭɘş 04:13, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Discussing dying in a fire isn't retarded. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 10:20, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

 ? 194.252.105.30 20:46, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

[1] for a second I thought you reverted Luke for posting about Thunda! :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD:D:DD:DDDD ---Chaos- (talk) -- 20:52, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Avatar

I find the lack of one on your profile quite disturbing----X 13:25, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

meh. Misery Says Moo 15:20, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Use monobook. ··· Danny Pew Pew 04:55, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Trip

How was the island? How was Frosty?----X 14:39, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

El. Oh. El. I leave for London on Thursday. That should answer all your questions about me and Frosty. Misery Says Moo 15:50, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

It shall be an amazing christmas. --Frosty 16:25, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

Watch out for turban heads....if you are sitting beside one....ask for a later flight----X 17:11, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

It's actually not that bad sitting next to one. Me and a mate of mine sat next to one when we were flying from Marseille to Eindhoven. It was a lot of jabber about Allah E Ahkbar, but it was fun regardless. -- Thomas So Dutch  19:14, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

will you be meeting tab? Tab 19:50, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

why meet someone with a failed sig?(lol)----X 23:45, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

Tabbels always has a reservation for christmas festivities :> --Frosty 23:47, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

As per my offensive letter on your talk =/ ---Chaos- (moo) -- 08:12, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Oh I only saw holiday cheer--X mas Merry 11:05, December 22, 2009 (UTC)