Build talk:A/E UW Chaos Planes Farmer

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Tested with Lava Font. Build is faster. Changed build to reflect.

GO GO GOShure 22:39, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

BuildA/E_UW_Chaos_Plains_Farmer? I guess you forgot the colon. XD ــмıкεнaшк 22:41, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

MaybeShure 22:45, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

Not really efficient enough to be worth it anymore. Half the enemies, and about twice the time. Also, I didn't think AoE degen triggered kiting. Does it? If not, you can remove all the notes about keeping health down at stuff. Can't test myself atm, GW broken for some reason :\ ¬ «Ðêjh» (talk) 22:47, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

You need to update the usage... it doesn't have Lava Font and it doesn't mention Frigid Armor.Stryk the Lightning 22:47, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

Yea aabout to do that as you can see i just copied itShure 22:47, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

/clap Props to you man. ICYFIFTYFIVE 22:56, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

I know right? Just wanted to get this up here so ecto prices will drop again. I think I have edited most of it for the new build Shure 22:57, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

I think you could drop some fire magic for some water magic. You only need 7 water to maintain Frigid Armor with a enchant mod.Stryk the Lightning 23:04, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

I thought it was 5 WM. Reducing Shadow Arts to 11+3+1 should do it.File:Signature 1.jpgAce (LVPoW) 23:06, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

11+3+1 is still easy maintain so we are gonna go with that, but it would be 6 wm. 23:08, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

Switch dash for radiation field?-- Çâñdëròú§§ ¿ 23:14, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

No dash is needed to get over traps. Shure 23:20, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

Is the IMS from burning speed too low to outrun the traps then?

Someone took my build down. I'm not sure how to revert any help? Shure 23:16, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

Fixed it nvm and I will continue to fix it when he tries to take it down. 23:19, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

Works really well. I like it.Scarn 00:53, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

You can use burning speed as a speed boost instead of dash.....just a thot. That would allow you to thro radiation field or something in there instead. Wtbursanswtsizzy 01:09, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

I wonder if your energy will survive... ɟoʇuɐʌʎʞɔıɹ 01:21, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

Thanks for putting this up, I know nothing about wiki or I would have done myself. I updated the version of this I put on guru a bit if you want to change what it is here. The degen doesn't trigger scatter. New build is 10 fire, 8 water, 12+4 shadow and glowing gaze instead of dash for energy gain. There are some videos and stuff for it on guru also if that would be appropriate for this page, again I know nothing. Also might want to change the part about killing with the 4-5-6 combo, as it's not really a combo anymore and possibly notes about using frigid armor to counter burning from traps and not letting attaxes pin you in a corner since you can't make them scatter. Also can anyone confirm that it works in Bone pits? no one in my little circle has tried it yet, the wells make me worry about it Spiderclown 01:46, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

Dash is not necessary in this build. The speed boost from Burning Speed is more than enough to get over the traps of the behemoths, and outrun the Charged Blacknesses. I personally use Glowing Gaze instead of dash for e-management purposes.98.207.210.93 04:34, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

I don't think that is needed, you can keep on constant burning without it. Just be smart when chaining. Dragnmn talk cont 06:24, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

Contents 1 never seen such poo in my life 2 You're forgetting to list.. 3 Raptors possible with this? 4 GET THIS OFF WIKI!!!! 5 nerf 6 PvE skills like radiation field? 7 Delete Tag 8 Lol 9 Lava Font 10 SF nerf LOL 11 Air 12 Comparing with the Old Version 13 don't work in plains anymore? 14 Varients 15 Burning Speed/MoR/Lava Font 16 Other Variants? 17 Other farming areas 18 A dash of this 19 Leave Optional Slot 20 I am Unstoppable 21 Armor of Mist 22 So basically 23 Other OTHER farming areas 24 Obsidian Behemoths 25 Shadow Form....................? 26 so i herd 27 Mindflays 28 Idk if this has been done, if it has, delete the comment 29 What's the point? 30 For the record 31 Ummmmm........... 32 Updated Videos 33 Energy Probs 34 still faster than Perma-SF Daggers Farmer? 35 LOLOL 36 Too Slow =( 37 Still Works? 38 HM 39 Is it worth the time? 40 Build will no longer work as well. 41 Archive 42 I'm still doing it... 43 brave version 44 An idea 45 Slightly Outdated? 46 lol? 47 Does anybody even use this anymore?? 48 Archive this. 49 Cmon 50 Obsidian Faggotry 51 It wont work 52 Trouble getting to the chaos plains 53 Nerfed 54 Skeleton of Dhuum spawn? 55 Build seems to be obsolete 56 Still Hope?

[edit] never seen such poo in my life

WTH is this? did u add the first skill on ur barr that ddnt make tham run? Glad u posted this cause it made noobs leave W/Rt and those kinda solo's for a while, making ecto prices climb even more. But this rly is a worthless build.... might aswell attack the graspings at the start with daggers, might be faster than burning tham 2 death. the previous build works fine if u remove MoR and replace it with something like Flame Djin's Haste or Inferno.

Testa few builds before u post a worthless thing like this without even testing run 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or.....--247 02:23, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

This build works just fine and doesn't trigger scatter or do half damage like your variant would. Take some of your own advice and test builds before posting worthless comments like this. Selket Shadowdancer 04:43, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

[edit] You're forgetting to list..

Cursed Dream Riders. If you kill those, you're done for. — eXtinctioN (Talk/Contributions) 03:46, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

lol now all enchantment based builds are killed, even Spell breaker and Obsidian flesh. isn't this a bit to cruel? Plohek 04:03, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

Of course not. After all, it would much too difficult to just undo the SF buff. Think of all the poor coders whose hard work would be for nothing. --71.229 04:22, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

• cough*Cover enchantments*cough* 82.176.163.30 05:27, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

well ok, actually i just got 4 ectos with this build in 30min. you can kill cursed dream riders, you just have to run away before mindflays come to you 89.142.62.108 05:20, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

Or don't bother killing them. There are a total of 72 Mindblade spawns you can easily reach, and 18 more which are slightly harder to reach, not counting all the directly spawning ones. This build can also easily do the Bone Pits (cleared it, the Chaos Planes as much as possible and 6 Terrorwebs in 47 minutes, and I've just started) which makes up for those ectos. Dragnmn talk cont 06:23, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

Not really. It may make the UW a tad harder to clear, but it has little/no effect on 600/smite and 55/SS, which don't usually farm Chaos Planes. Chfan 08:44, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

If vipers Defense would work, it might be woth adding to variants. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 06:34, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

They are not fleashy, so I don't think it will work. Kongtorp 07:15, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

Wasnt sure if they wer fleshy, so nvmd. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 07:16, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Raptors possible with this?

Can You farm raptors with this build?It's kinda almost Dragon Festival time and I still ain't got a working SF build to farm em lil' critters :/

AoE scatter. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 07:28, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

I would say so, i mean it might be a little bit slower than some of the other builds out there but yeah. As long as you stay away from Broodmother you should easily degen these things to death.-Vash Stonefall 07:36, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

U cant do it in HM though. In HM, all but 3 raptor will run away from you, making the run take forever. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 07:44, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

[edit] GET THIS OFF WIKI!!!!

Get this off wiki! People who spam this on Wiki are the ones that help spread chaos whihc leads to the economy crash! Get this off wiki! -Akatosh

lol youre terrible --Tab Moo 11:18, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

ups /FrosTalk\ 11:21, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

Wow. Economy crash. ZOMG! - PANIC! sexiness! 11:25, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

This isn't going to be used nearly as much as the old one. Burning Speed is just mediocre because the most DPS you'll get out of it is 14, so it would take 30 seconds to kill a foe with 500 health. XD Maybe take Flame Djinn's Haste or Viper's Defense instead of Dash to speed up killing a little bit? ــмıкεнaшк 11:28, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

Permasins robbin all teh ectos [RAGE] Selket Shadowdancer 12:21, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

Ya I know when i posted this it would be bad for the economy, but anet pissed me off by giving us 30k favor after I invested so much into underworld scrolls... Shure 12:50, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

This won't be bad for the economy. Killing is still only a third as fast as it was with Mark of Rodgort+Lava Font. People will look for faster ways to make money, tbh, although this will be just okay (not amazing, though.) ــмıкεнaшк 13:01, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

Sure but all the people who have made sins just for this are probably to lame to be able to do anything else Shure 13:15, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

It took me 26 min to clear chaos planes and i got 4 ectos. I think it's a great build and there is no scatter. 89.142.66.136 13:48, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

Now that I think about it, The only thing that needs to stop is the people who get ecto's ad then sell them to the damn traders!

I don't know anyone that would sell to the traders, although making it so that the traders don't accept ectos could work. ــмıкεнaшк 15:42, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

Lol if they did that prices would get even lower with people trying to Undercut each other on sale price.

Wood > Ecto. File:Signature 1.jpgAce (LVPoW) 16:53, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

I got wood.--Rella 22:18, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

I'm hoping for glittering dust to skyrocket. I've got a few K of it. Why, you ask? Because it's dust. And it glitters. –Ichigo724 22:19, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

Glittering Gauntlets - 10k Glittering dust imo--RELYK ʞlɐʇ ʎɯ 23:41, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

[edit] nerf

Ok guys so I put this up for deletion since it no longer works for farming Chaos Planes, the Banished Dream riders were changed to Crushed Dream Riders and they now spawn Mindflay Specters which can strip Shadow Form with a Signet of Removal since SF will not stop signets.

I think I saw someone above post that it still works as long as you get away from the Mindflays. Choytw ~~ Talk+ 16:25, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

And don't forget to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~) Choytw ~~ Talk+ 16:25, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

He better not put this up for deletion this works, and is the most effective way if you arn't an idiot you can obviously tell which mobs have dechant Shure 16:27, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

As long as you're not a moron, the build works. Just stay away from the Cursed Dream Riders.--96.24.232.135 16:31, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

I can't even get to the damn chaos planes anymore... the trappers are blocking the path up the mountains every time I go in... anyone else having this problem?--98.203.159.103 01:56, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] PvE skills like radiation field?

anyone tried PvE skills like radiation field in place of lava font? (im not sure but degen may cap at 10 so may not be worth doing dude to high energy cost) Xiay 16:36, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

degen is capped at 10 just like regen is capped at 10 pips. Choytw ~~ Talk+ 16:37, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Delete Tag

Surely the sig of disenchantment ACTUALLY speeds up the run, since you will always have burning speed over the top of everything, thus they remove that and they burn themselves. /FrosTalk\ 16:39, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

theres multiple copies. — Skakid 16:41, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

Exactly, it depends on how many you aggro. If 4 or more of them use Signet of Disenchantment all at once (or relatively closely), Shadow Form will also be removed. You could try to constantly reapply Burning Speed whenever it's removed, but I don't think energy will permit it. ــмıкεнaшк 16:42, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

Whoever keeps posting these uw builds is a complete moron and at this rate they aren't going to let up on shadow form. If you guys are pissed about the nerf stop making it happen and keep this crap out of public view!96.25.126.253 18:20, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

lol freedom of information is gud amirite? No 18:21, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

PvXwiki is about storing good build; we can't deny the world their right to have access to one. ~.~ ــмıкεнaшк 18:22, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

A-net and Izzy doesn't even look at PvX, I think at one point PvX requested to be fan site but got rejected (someone link to it pl0x). /FrosTalk\ 18:24, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

Or you could just avoid killing the Cursed Dream Riders. The Mindflays don't appear unless you kill the CDR's, all of which can be avoided.--Masato 18:25, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Lol

People keep making little edits to my build giving incorrect info. Thats ok b/c i have the current fixed copy to saved file. If people continue doing do I will get the admins involved. THZ Shure 19:58, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

PvX:OWN says no No 19:59, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

I dont mind people contributing to the build but when they do it in a negative way (i just reverted a change that said to aggro cursed dream riders and mindflays) I think there may be a problem. Shure 20:01, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

too many kiddies that don't like to share their toys :3 . I bet they didn't object when someone gave them the build. I lol'd at all the whiners on this page though xP --Sazzy 21:37, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

I don't think this is broken enough to kill the economy anymore. This is still great, but you'll be farming a quarter as effectively (which is still pretty good, tbh.) ــмıкεнaшк 22:14, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

==HAHA...your build-- You are a FUNNY FUNNY little man. I made this build Months ago, and was showing a friend when they were still TALKING about nerfing shadowform, then the next thing I know my friends that I farm Chaos planes with are telling me that this is on the wiki. Tag it to the admins. I don't give a SHIT. I made this build, and I'll take a polygraph to prove it. You morons are sitting here day in and ay out posting other peoples builds, and you HONESTLY don't think that the game masters, and administrators don't look at sites like this. You really think that they just HAPPEN to know what builds to nerf. Stop posting trash that HELPS ruin the economy, and keep the builds what they were intended to be: FOR FRIENDS ONLYDracconus 11:01, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

Plz die in teh firrez u retarded peace of retardedness it not ur build you dont own it and trust me you wont even click one skill on teh skill list without Anet knowing it...go eat a cake plz :P

U really believe anet needs to check this site to know what to nerf? A lot of them play guildwars themselves and I'm sure that if you make a game, it's fairly easy to check what most of the people are using as build. Thinking otherwise is small minded and just dumb.--Sazzy 13:47, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

Wow, we're retarded, and this moron above Sazzy can't even spell please. LOL @ the young punk kids that have no damn sense. And, Sazzy, I agree fully, I believe that we should begin a revolt against this site since it IS THE NUMBER ONE REASON THAT THE GAME IS NO LONGER AS ENJOYABLE AS T WAS YEARS AGO BEFORE IT CAME ALONG.Dracconus 20:52, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

Just fix it, saying there was no discussion on the revisions, eventually discussion will begin on it if theres a problem.--RELYK ʞlɐʇ ʎɯ 05:02, 5 July 2008 (EDT)

Dracconus, you're just mad because someone else figured out the build that you figured out. People have brains you know. If you can think up a build, then who's to say someone else can independantly think up the same build. Your assumption that your build was stolen could be very very wrong. People aren't dumb pvx bots like you think they are. I came up with a build a long time ago to efficiently farm vaettir back in the day and without telling anyone a friend of mine came up with the same build. Why? Because he has a brain too and knows how to make a good build as well. Dracconus, you need to be a little more open minded.

[edit] Lava Font

the build was vetted without it yet Lifeblast edited it to include it. I also see comments regarding that it should be in the build. Should Lava Font be kept in the build or be reverted back to Dash as it originally was? Godbox File:GodlyCompanion-cube.jpg 06:07, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

You don't need Dash when you have Burning Speed and it should make the killing faster as long as you use the old scatter reduction tricks. I don't see any reason to take it out. - Misery Is HawtFile:Grumpy bear.JPG 06:12, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

Me neither, but considering the build was vetted with Dash ;o But I suppose Lava Font can stay there since it's better then. Godbox File:GodlyCompanion-cube.jpg 06:13, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

It was also vetted with fire attunment in instead of glyp of emelmntal power, I think this may impact the energy managment, especially as you are goinging to be casting an extra dmg spell (lava font) - I agree dash isnt needed but i think fire attunment is - just my thaughts Xiay 06:24, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

Stuck Fire Attunement back in. 14 Fire Magic = 9s burning, 47 (halved) Lava Font vs. 12 Fire Magic = 8s burning, 41 (halved) Lava Font = whoopety fucking doo, wtb energy. --71.229 06:30, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

Well Glowing gaze also works well for energy managment, just a thought... Shure 10:19, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

GG is unneeded if you have Attune, and in the Bone Pits GG can be counterproductive (think of spells cast on minions and Wells of Power). Dragnmn talk cont 10:26, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

Maybe add some notes or usage about how to reduce your life to maintain agro. And let people know not to go crazy with lava font(I can usually get it off twice w/out energy risk which is +140dmg which equates to a 10second faster kill than burning alone. And thats on mindblades, on things that take longer to kill it would be even more time saved.)--Lifeblast

The only things that take longer to kill in my experience are Riders (which is really marginal, nearly the same) and Aatxes (which take so long to kill you'll fall asleep no matter what). Dragnmn talk cont 18:05, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

Lolwut? Why are you killing aataxes? Lmao ICYFIFTYFIVE 21:07, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

Ectos. ≈Display lolcat 22:18, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

Or to get out of bodyblocks (I think they take too long to kill for ecto's). Dragnmn talk cont 06:35, 5 July 2008 (EDT)

With this bar, yeah probably. ≈Display lolcat 07:39, 5 July 2008 (EDT)

Or do what I do. Bring an SS hero. You can clear almost the entire chamber in one fast pull and on occasion get an ecto and then bust it to the Chaos planes where the money is good.

Why bother with Aatxes. I can do Chaos planes in 30 mins with all Banished dead and all Mindblades dead. Doing this nets an average of 4 ectos. Why tack on another 10 mins to kill aatxes for a possible one ecto at best. Most of the time the Aatxes there don't drop ectos in that room anyways. I've gotten maybe 5 ectos from them in around 150 runs. That's an extra 1500 mins I could be doing chaos planes which means I've lost 20-25 ectos by being stupid and killing aatxes.

[edit] SF nerf LOL

After the SF nerf (IMHO it is worse now than it was before the buff) the first thing I thought of was to try something with BS. I saw this and decided to give it a go. Basically all ur doing is taking BS+frigid in place of MoR and Dash. It is slower than before and more energy intensive....But imo it's only about 25% slower than the old one. Already got 4 ectos with it so gj on the build. FoW armor here I come! Wtbursanswtsizzy 20:23, 5 July 2008 (EDT)

Actually before you did about 47damage per second(DPS), now you're lucky to do 16 dps. Before we could kill a mob of Midblades in under 20 seconds. Now you're looking at at least 45-50 seconds. But what really takes up most of the time is pulling and running, so the extra kill time doesn't affect things all that badly.--Lifeblast

[edit] Air

Ok, I suggest we toss those points put in air into the deadly arts. No air spells are present and this extra second of paradox won't hurt ;)

It's so you can use swiftness on frigid armor, don't be badThough it had 4 extra points lulz--GoldenStar 20:24, 5 July 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Comparing with the Old Version

Doing this is idiotic, and giving it a lower than deserved vote b/c it isn't as fast is also idiotic, because this is as good as it gets as far as we all know, and the other doesn't work. Its like comparing apples to oranges... Shure 22:40, 5 July 2008 (EDT)

[edit] don't work in plains anymore?

'When Cursed Dream Riders are killed, they cause Mindflay Specters [sic] to spawn. Mindflay Specters [sic] have Signet of Disenchantment instead of Hex Breaker' (source; http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Game_updates/20080702). This Disenchant will kill you.robertjan 05:05, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

We're well aware of that, which is why you avoid the Cursed Dream Riders altogether. ــмıкεнaшк 08:17, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Varients

"Replacing Lava Font with an IMS or other skill, although you will not be able to kill some enemies."

You can kill everything without lava font - Aataxes take a while but they dont scatter (like they do with lava font - unless you dropped your health) maybe Amend to...

Replacing Lava Font with an IMS like Dash This will reduce the damage you deal a bit but does make out running the Charged Blackness's easier.

Adding Glowing Gaze in place of Lava font again reduces your damage output but gives better energy managmnet, however with practive you can maitain constant burning on foes without running out of energy.

Thats just my thaughts, Ill let somone else amed it if you think its a good idea. Xiay 05:02, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

The build was originally with Dash. I amended with Lava Font b/c it cuts down your time signifigantly, and many people felt Dash was unneccisary since you've got a running skill already that can be spammed as often as needed to escape. --Lifeblast

Totally agree, please read my above suggestion I think it covers this sentiment well. Xiay 05:14, 8 July 2008 (EDT)

this build failsHole 05:32, 8 July 2008 (EDT)

Could you tell why please?:P Brandnew. 05:51, 8 July 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Burning Speed/MoR/Lava Font

With Lava Font in the build whats the point of having Burning Speed & Frigid Armour when you could just use the old build with Mark of Rodgort as it still spreads burning? Selket Shadowdancer 12:36, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

Hex breaker. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 12:37, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

Ya, the Mindblades have Hex Breaker nao. :( ــмıкεнaшк 12:38, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

Ah I see. Thanks. Selket Shadowdancer 12:40, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

heh heh heh. Thought you would have known that? _From^Stokoe 13:05, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Other Variants?

I've got a question: For those who don't have Eye of the North, is there any way to replace the Glyph of swiftness? Agnusmaximus 11:35, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

Not really... unless you buy Essence from people with eotn. ¬ Klumpeet 07:19{GMT}12-07-MMVIII

[edit] Other farming areas

I could see it working outside UW (Raptors, general mobs, etc), especially since stuff like Sliver Armor not working as well with SF. --*Wah Wah Wah!* 14:27, 12 July 2008 (EDT)

Not anything in HM, so not anything worth it outside of UW. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 06:25, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

Are you sure there aren't any other farming areas outside UW?(Either NM or HM) Cause I would love it if there were. Agnusmaximus 11:39, 15 July 2008(EDT)

[edit] A dash of this

I submit that Lava Font is really unnecessary for this build since it does cause scatter. This build is quite quick if you know what you are doing. Dash should take the place of Lava Font because it makes running Twin Serpent easier. -Jacin Nomin

[edit] Leave Optional Slot

Perhaps since it can not seem to be agreed upon which is the best skill to use in the last slot, it should remain empty and simply describe the skills that can be useful in that spot in an optional slot header. Even though i find Lava Font to be faster, I personally, and most people i know, use Glowing Gaze since it makes the build super easy to run and I tend to not pay very good attention when farming. I'll let someone else make the change though since I already irked some people the wrong way around this joint. -- Lifeblast

[edit] I am Unstoppable

Should I am Unstoppable put into variants would make charged darkness's a lot easier to get by.Saintsfan 19:21, 19 July 2008 (EDT)

Why? They are easy to get by anyway. Kongtorp 19:12, 19 July 2008 (EDT)

ye, just like... don't run INTO them o.O; And even if they do shock you, you can easily continue the run. --Sazzy 19:25, 19 July 2008 (EDT)

Unless you decide to aggro a couple groups of them, and run right into 10 of them. Knocklocks are baed. XD ــмıкεнaшк 20:32, 19 July 2008 (EDT)

You wouldn't survive the damage then, making I am unstoppable still useless. --Sazzy 21:07, 19 July 2008 (EDT)

It's just unnessacary at this time. Anyone who has any clue how to do the run wont have any issues with Grasping Darknessess. Selket Shadowdancer 21:10, 19 July 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Armor of Mist

ok i did alot of checking and variants of the run i never use lava font and i always put Armor of Mist as my 8th skill being its a 33% run makes getting by behemoths easy and faster to get to chaos planes. Adacer 12:11, 21 July 2008 (EDT) Also forgot to mention makes it a good choice since being we are using frigid armor which comes from the water attributes anyways! Adacer 12:13, 21 July 2008 (EDT)

Lava Font speeds up killing a lot, while Burning Speed is probably enough IMS. Not really worth it, tbh. ــмıкεнaшк 12:16, 21 July 2008 (EDT)

ya but at the same time shortage on energy can become a burden while maintaining attunement and not to mention scatter evaluate before speaking. when they scatter they go back 2 seconds before returning and during the entire fight there away from u for 4 seconds total meaning burning speed alone easily matches the speed even with lava font. not as active as with lava font which makes to think its faster cause ur doing more with lava font but i have tested the times of killin with and without lava font and the killin time is the same, test it for yourself if ya dont believe me and energy is so much easier to maintain. btw you should be getting burning speed off 3 times during frigid armors duration. then its start the SF chain all over again and burn em again-but mean while right as ur almost done getting the SF chain off burning comes off so really only 1 second downtime of burning. so what im saying is safer run cause more consistent run from armor of mist and easy energy management means for a safer and easier run imo. Adacer 12:53, 21 July 2008 (EDT)

and to correct myself as to what i meant to say as your finishing the SF chain you have 4 seconds left that there burning. Adacer 13:03, 21 July 2008 (EDT)

[edit] So basically

You have the same build, but instead of using one slot for Burning, you use 2 slots. Why bother? If this can farm UW, so can the old(er) MoR/Dash sin. --84.24.206.123 12:29, 21 July 2008 (EDT)

Hex Breaker > MoR. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 12:32, 21 July 2008 (EDT)

Ah, I see... Thanks for the clarification :> I forgot about that part.--84.24.206.123 12:34, 21 July 2008 (EDT)

ok look at like this lava font 5 second duration cause scatter which is pain in my book-just burning speed alone still 30 min so whats the point in lava font if times run the same. secondaly why stop cast frigid armor and burning speed to just get passed the behemoths when u can have a more consistent run?? Adacer 12:46, 21 July 2008 (EDT)

You can stop the scatter by letting Shadow Form end once (while not within the aggro of any monsters) and having a vampiric weapon swap. I suggest you only do this in the Chaos Planes, though. ــмıкεнaшк 12:50, 21 July 2008 (EDT)

weapon swapping and letting SF drop lets see thats 30 seconds downtime before even starting the fight imo im almost done kill the first large group of banished?? Adacer 12:54, 21 July 2008 (EDT)

You don't have to recast SF then let it end. ~.~ Once I get into the Chaos Planes, I just let SF end, and that's usually a wait of 10 seconds or less. Mind you, I stopped farming after the nerf, but scattering still works the same. ــмıкεнaшк 12:58, 21 July 2008 (EDT)

well it really doesnt matter im just basing my opinion on my own experiences and i see for myself what is more effective! Adacer 12:59, 21 July 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Other OTHER farming areas

Are there any other farming areas for this build? Either in NM, or HM? If so, please list them. :) thanks. Agnusmaximus 1:23, 22 July 2008(EDT)

Heh, I took the old Chaos Planes Farmer to the Spectral Vaettir in Jaga Moraine HM. You should be able to do the same with the current build, or old build, and almost just as fast as the Vaettir have 160 armor against elemental damage (meaning Lava Font used to deal 7-8 damage per hit, but now deals 3-4) because the majority of your damage comes from burning anyway. Ebon Battle Standard of Honor, if you could find room in the build, would probably makes things much faster, though. ــмıкεнaшк 11:01, 22 July 2008 (EDT)

Ok thanks. Are there any other farming places? Cause I'm pretty poor right now, and cant really afford to pay 1 k each time to go to Underworld, and always get killed by behemoths. So my plan is to get enough money, and then go to the Underworld. Agnusmaximus 11:40, 22 July 2008(EDT)

How about raptors? Does that work if you just avoid the boss? Agnusmaximus 1:45, 23 July 2008(EDT)

Well given the D/A HM raptor farming build which uses the same concept. (Shadow Form + Degen) to kill all but the boss in a few minutes. Just run around the cave, leaving boss mob to last, use SF as soon as it sais 'defeat ...' and chances are no one will rupt your shadow form. If they do, resign, keep trying. Took me a while to get the D/A one working for me. But this should be the same. Lt Death 06:42, 24 July 2008 (EDT)

wouldnt this be good for farming IDS96.240.137.64 15:38, 3 August 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Obsidian Behemoths

a way to avoid their traps if they're bunched up, but still possible to get through, is to use your speed boost, run to them and back out quickly to trigger they're traps. If you don't think you got them all, you can auto-attack them for a bit to interrupt their traps. I've done this a couple times with the old Chaos Planes Farmer (before the SF nerf) to keep the run going, although it may add a minute to your run. >.> ــмıкεнaшк 12:33, 26 July 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Shadow Form....................?

Here's some brain candy for the maker/experts of this build. What happens if you're bad, shadow form ends when a whole bunch of monsters are by you, and you're stuck with 50 health?- Rabidwolff55 10:08, 5 August 2008 (EDT) (I signed too late...)

You keep practising and make sure it doesn't happen again. Also, watch out for lag. Don't forget to sign your comments with "~~~~" ــмıкεнaшк 23:08, 4 August 2008 (EDT)

Lag is a killer. Aggro'ed 27 Mindblades and lagged out... Also, keep on practising somewhere you are not attacked. Dragnmn talk cont 05:44, 5 August 2008 (EDT)

The Isle of the Nameless is good for that. =P ــмıкεнaшк 10:06, 5 August 2008 (EDT)

Don't pvp versions of skills affect IoN? File:Definite caboose sig.jpgAce(LVPoW)NO U! 11:13, 5 August 2008 (EDT)

No. --› Srs Beans R Srs 11:17, 5 August 2008 (EDT)

Another Thing, where does the +4 for Shadow Arts come from?- Rabidwolff55 1:35, 5 August 2008 (EDT)

It's 1+3; in other words, a Shadow Arts headpiece and a Rune of Superior Shadow Arts. ــмıкεнaшк 13:49, 5 August 2008 (EDT)

[edit] so i herd

they chase you less and spectres are ranged Long Cat 20:51, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

Yep, this article needs serioius editing.

btw, LESS NERF! ــмıкεнaшк 21:31, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

no edits since update. longcat safe to assume its still safe? Long Cat 22:02, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

Someone should definitely add something about the changes though in the Notes and just the general Usage sections though.

longcat has used build post update, works fine just takes longer Long Cat 12:52, 9 August 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Mindflays

...have been removed from the game if I read the update notes right. Therefore I am reverting Ace's revert, because the information he re-added was rightfully removed. Dragnmn talk cont 07:18, 10 August 2008 (EDT)

This means you have to run around to group all of the Mindblades, right (unless they pop out at adjacent range)? And they have more health, so it's still slower, but now you can kill everything. And, being ranged now, will they try to avoid your AoE? or does it not change scattering? ــмıкεнaшк 14:31, 10 August 2008 (EDT)

I don't know. I have been toying around with the skills in PvP, so I admit I did not go there and checked if Mindflays spawn, but according to the notes, they don't.

Normally speaking in NM ranged creatures avoid pulsing AoE's, but not things like Burning Speed. The Dream Riders didn't move last time I checked. It's going to be a lot harder to ball all of them up now they don't follow that far though. Dragnmn talk cont 17:10, 10 August 2008 (EDT)

I have been farming there for the last 2 days, and what i do is kill each dreamrider by itself, and then take care of all their spawns in 1 go. It will take u a while, because some of the mindflays seam to have problems with grooping and run off. Repullin gand putting them back into 1 group is then neccesairy.Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 05:25, 11 August 2008 (EDT)

I assume you still pull separate groups into one big mob, eh? ــмıкεнaшк 11:24, 11 August 2008 (EDT)

I believe that is what I said. And Yes I do. I just take 1 group more then shown in the youtube vid's, the group of the old cursed dreamrider in the corner with acces to the pits.Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 07:05, 12 August 2008 (EDT)

This is what I understand of that, you take care of a Dream Rider, then run away from the Mindblades and kill another Dream Rider, then you round up the 6 Mindblades, kill them, round up the 12 Mindblades, kill them, round up the 18 Mindblades and kill them? Or am I just mistaken? :P _From^Stokoe 13:18, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

You're mistaken. I kill all three dreamriders as shown in the video by shadow of nesta + 1 dreamrider in the corner where a cursed dreamrider used to be. THEN I kill their spawns (4*3 = 12), those spawns are in turn killed (4*6 = 24) and then the last spawn is killed (4*9 = 36), then i kille the groups near the entry to the dryders, kill the dryders adn finsih up with the last three dreamriders in the bottom of the pits. If ur fast, and dont mess up (wich I always do), this will take u about an hour and a bit. It usually takes me an hour and a half, and nets u 1-2 keys, 1-2 UW scrolls a couple of golds, and 4-6 ectos. And u could also clear th epits but that will take u even more time...Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 17:44, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Idk if this has been done, if it has, delete the comment

OwZUgEF7lPPSfekODXgMuZDDAAA

That DOES NOT use frigid armour and leaves an empty slot. I use burning to lower my hp,usually mindblades/dream riders,etc,etc - then spam lava font. Ive got a feeling this has been done/is getting used,but felt it worth posting a)to bring up the point and b) It means i can go make a cup of tea, watch the tv, walk the dog, go for a jog, sleep AND make breakfast before i have to maintain shadow form(For those who dont understand sarcasm - i mean sf lasts ages ).Feel free to comment,im aware im not the best build maker here - unlike some i see on the site :D,Oh and if u could tell me whether to scrap this and use the version listed, or give suggestions for empty slot(someone said about radiation field earlier O_o - does it work) 77.102.143.152 02:32, 16 August 2008 (EDT)

I don't know if this build is any good, but I'll give it a try. 1 thing though, I don't see why u put points into air magick, because that has no real use. Glyph of Swiftness doesn't become any better, and its better of in deadly arts, so it can recharge SF just that little bit faster.Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 04:41, 16 August 2008 (EDT)

Now i can add Make Lunch to the list of things to do before my recast xD i just find it useful,burn down till below the 20%, lava font spam, means you score some damage with a view to progress on to bigger numbers. Felt its worthy of an "honourable mention" anyway. 77.102.143.152 18:54, 16 August 2008 (EDT)

Also this would give a spare slot,vanguard sniper support perhaps? a decent rank and you could conceivably mean you could never fail as a result of traps,when you can wait till you're clear of distractions and continuously fire, hit the big yellow number,walk through. 77.102.143.152 19:03, 16 August 2008 (EDT)

Sorry but, please tell me how putting points into Deadly Arts will make Shadow Form recharge faster? I think someone needs to read the skill description again. _From^Stokoe 13:14, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

Easy, putting points in deadly arts increases the time deadly paradox lasts. And deadly paradox recharches SF faster. Atleast, thats what I think.Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 02:57, 18 August 2008 (EDT)

Wrong, DP affects skills on activation, not duration. Selket Shadowdancer 03:42, 18 August 2008 (EDT)

Stance. (5...13...15 seconds.) Your Assassin skills activate and recharge 33% faster. Disables your attack skills (10 seconds). Seems your right. My appologies.Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 08:47, 18 August 2008 (EDT)

It works kinda good. its cernainly faster then my own methode. I'm just not used to burning myself down, to avoid scatter....Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 11:36, 20 August 2008 (EDT)

[edit] What's the point?

What is the point of this? It's far too slow now that the mindblades have more HP, they also need rounding up into 1 tight packed group. I just done 2 runs in Underworld, I cleared all of the Smite Crawlers in 14 minutes with the W/Rt Vengeful farmer, then I went to planes on my, cleared all of the Mindblades with this build, which took me about 49 minutes, I got 3 Ectos from the Smites and 5 from the Planes. In the time I farmed the Planes, I could have done 3 full Smite runs and started another run. To me, ~9 ectos is better than ~5. _From^Stokoe 13:11, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

The question remians: How consistant are the drops from Smite? Not at all. Usually, I get none, sometimes one, and rarely more than one ecto from Smites. Mindblades range from anywhere between 1 and 10, most often 4+. --› Srs Beans R Srs 08:51, 18 August 2008 (EDT)

Yeah on average you're guaranteed around 4 a run if not more (I've never had less than 4 from a full CP clear). Selket Shadowdancer 09:34, 18 August 2008 (EDT)

I can't work the warrior/mesmer or the warrior/ristualist. I dont have the skillz for that. I can however, work this build. And it nets me quite a nice amount of ecto's so i dont care weither it is slower...Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 10:59, 19 August 2008 (EDT)

[edit] For the record

I own this build as per RaSk: Raskownsthisshit. Dont say you own shit cuz ya dont. if not the wiki then ATLEAST Anet owns it. They also own your dumbass D:< and me D: Omg. I gotta get out of here... btw I will wtfpwn anyone except infidel or sazzy that replies to this retarded comment kthnxbai, rąʂKƴɖooƿɭɘş 05:31, 18 August 2008 (EDT)

Can I have a cookie? Big (<3) PEW!! 05:51, 18 August 2008 (EDT)

*Gives above user a cookie* Hope it's nice!Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 08:45, 18 August 2008 (EDT)

Wuts trolling mate? Godbox File:GodlyCompanion-cube.jpg 11:01, 19 August 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Ummmmm...........

Wont this take forever due to the Minblades now having and extra 500 health?--Sam6555 14:17, 18 September 2008 (EDT)

Nope. Even found a faster way.... Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 14:23, 18 September 2008 (EDT)

so what is your faster way ?User:H34v3n

Its gone now. A anon posted a different build on the talkpage, but it was ereased byu the hack. I used the old build, but i used ti the "safe" way, not spamming burning speed when frozen amror is down, when u near your SF refresh etc. etc. Now i burn myself down with burning speed (to under 20% health, so they dont scatter), while spamming lava font. makes it faster for me. Just over an hour if im luckey with the scatter.Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 10:02, 23 September 2008 (EDT)

yup, i'm spamming lava font too, it much more simple and faster too actually. maybe snow storm could make it faster. Plohek 11:11, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

i was thinking yeah, some PB AoE, or something like flame dijns haste, or snowstorm. Shame I dont have snowstorm on my assa yet though.. and if i can find a decent vampiric +5 energy 20% ench weapon, i can drop burning speed all togather (i use dark escape as a IMS), so i have a free skill slot for another damage skill/spellArnout aka The Emperors Angel 08:49, 25 September 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Updated Videos

Are needed. This seeems like such a hassle and my energy keeps running low...I miss Glowing Gaze. ;-; Anyways, someone get a new video up here please :D - ^We_Heart^Katamari 18:50, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Energy Probs

I don't have 2 much energy problems rly. Dont know if alot of u use this but thought i'd add it anyway because i see it isnt under the equipment section. when killing Graspings and an Aatxes is accedentally aggroed i use Zealous daggers for energy maintenance. When in the CP i switch between my Vampiric weapon ( 2 keep HP low) and between a Zealous scythe of enchanting. (+3 energy per hit when surrounded)it rly helps alot. O and when running Twin Serpant i use a Totem Axe + shield with + 10 armor vs lighting. Never know when u might run into a bad blackness spawn and the shield adds extra armour vs the traps. Hope this helps and sorry for the bad English/Spelling.--247 02:27, 12 October 2008 (EDT)

[edit] still faster than Perma-SF Daggers Farmer?

sry but i dont think so... Illoyon 22:31, 15 October 2008 (EDT)

That cant farm the cows at the beginning if you want to.--66.192.104.10 23:17, 15 October 2008 (EDT)

[edit] LOLOL

Q_Q moar noobs, maybe if you noobs werent busy looking up builds and busy making them, you wouldnt use these half assed builds posted on pvx wiki that people practically shat out and rated "GREAT" while u noobs are busy looking up builds and contributing to a cookie cutter style(or lack of) gameplay, ill be busy farming the uw hardmode solo and laughing at a/e peeps who take an hour at chaos planes kthxbai

"You will not lawl,you will not Q_Q!I will own you!All your ass are belong to me!"

~Arrythmia

Have I ever told you how awful you are yet? Brandnew. 19:08, 16 October 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Too Slow =(

I used to farm chaos plains every now and then before the nerf. But now, I really think this build is kinda useless. It takes SO long and is SO annoying to kill the mindblades, and I'm not getting as many ectos for some reason. I don't know if I'm just doing something wrong, or this builds just not that good since the nerf.--Vgfanatic2 16:42, 21 October 2008 (EDT)

agree Illoyon 22:10, 21 October 2008 (EDT)

Its not much slower, and for me, more enemies, wich means more ectos. where it used to be 2-6 i think, its now 4-6. For me anyway. Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 03:48, 22 October 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Still Works?

Does this build still work like it used to? (Other than the ranged, and the less follow.) Is the run to CP the same? And how many ectos do you get now due to the nerf of Chaos Plains? Thanks. Agnusmaximus 14:16, 25 October 2008 (EDT)

Yes this still works. You can still run the the plains, and yes, you can still kill all the enemies, but you will have to place them right so you can kill them all in 1 go. And I think you get more ectos now, due to the increased amount of farmable enemies.

[edit] HM

Does this variant work in HM atm? -->192.122.218.110 07:47, 27 October 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Is it worth the time?

There are no more mindflay spectres in chaos planes but mindblades have duble the health now and are ranged now and takes alot of time to ball them up and kill them + im not geting drops as i once did so i think its not worth it anymorem

charging blackness cant take awa shadow form- their enchantment killer si a spell- which is blocked

The Chaos Plains farm has been nerfed now, so I guess the Shadow Form farming is over. Oh well, we had a good 'run'.(!)

The Chaos Plains farm has been nerfed now, which is a real shame. Oh well, we had a good 'run'. Woodymiles 13:41, 18 November 2008 (EST)

[edit] Build will no longer work as well.

After the latest nerf to shadow form, you need 16 shadow arts to properly maintain it, therefore you need to either drop points out of Water Magic and cause less dps or drop from Fire Magic, and cause less DPS. _From^Stokoe 14:18, 12 December 2008 (EST)

i go 16 shadow/12 fire and left over into DA. burn myself down to about 80hp and auto attack with zealous scythe. it works pretty well but im kind of annoyed i cant sleep through this now ƃuoן sı ʇɐɔƃuoן 21:36, 18 December 2008 (EST)

i go 16 shadow/12earth and do it using gole, sliver armor, and intensity as my kill spells, not very fast but it ensures energy, plus switching to zealous daggers or a scythe ensures adequate energy to recast SF.--Jarad the Devarkin 00:37, 22 December 2008 (EST)

[edit] Archive

Does anyone even use this anymore? Life 21:18, 6 January 2009 (EST)

I still see A/E's running around in ToA so i am pretty sure there are still people doing it, given that ectos have gone up a bit in price again one run will still beat out a bunch of smite runs. the difference now is that most ppl are looking for an easier run. with the nerfs it requires much more concentration and patience.--Jarad the Devarkin 00:01, 7 January 2009 (EST)

All the A/E's are doing uwsc or afk =\. Plus this takes a ridiculous amount of time now. Life 00:56, 7 January 2009 (EST)

True, i am not against archiving it as it has fallen out of favor for more reliable farming strategies. its still one of the few builds that can do chaos planes farming though and if someone has the patience it is still viable, that's all i was trying pointing out.--Jarad the Devarkin 14:51, 7 January 2009 (EST)

[edit] I'm still doing it...

Hi,

First I've never used this build. I've always used the old build with Rodgort and Lava Font. It was working pretty well, using Rodgort on the Riders only, and killing the Mindblades with Lava Font only. With 15 or 16 in Shadows Arts...

Now, after the nerf, of course 16 is needed. But really SF is not the problem, you just have to cast it more often. The problem is the damages done to the mana-pool because of this faster SF cast. So, go buy ToT bags and stuffs and buff your A/E !

I use :

- Pumpkins for +10% hd - Candy Apple for +10mana - Candy Corn for +1 to all Skills.

- Fire Staff +20% Enchat +5mana +7mana when Health<50%

With those sweets this farm is still fairly easy. Still droping 3 to 8 ectos per 40mins run for a total cost of 1+4+4 sweets + 1k entry = 2k350 = Half an ecto...

Even with all these buffs, it's still slower then before. You sometimes have to wait for the Lesser Energy Glyph to recast to keep you mana high enough for the next SF cast. You cannot link the Lava-Font as fast as before, so the killing is a little slower, but still I think it's nothing annoying. The nerf changed a "1k -> 32-34min EASY run" into a "2k350 -> 40-45min moderately difficult run".

I dropped 22 ectos tonight, 5 full run for 3 failures... I wonder why people give up so fast after a little nerf. If the skills cannot save the SF farm, the cons can ! They're part of the game, so let's use them...

Well, for one, getting cons from events is quite hard to do unless some people just stockpile them to infinity, especially further down the road as the festival gets further away, they become rarer and rarer. having a build that requires festive items is just retarded over the long run.--66.192.104.13 19:24, 8 January 2009 (EST)

>>>>> Retarded ? You can find zillions of TOT Bags on Guildwars Shop. I use 1 Pumpkins Cookies, 4 Apple Candy, 4 Candy Corn and 4 Pumpkin Pies by run. For a total cost of 2k + 1k for entrance. The run cost me 3k and brings between 15k and 50k home in 45 minutes. I wonder why you consider that retarded. Festive items are part of the game, easy to find and I don't see why it shouldn't be used to counter nerfs...

even with those items i dont see how you maintain energy, whenevr i use sf without dagger attacks i only ever regen around 32 energy before i have to recast so when ive used the chain about twice i have to recast shadow form twice to get one chain on, any idears on how to keep my energy up for longer? or do i just have to keep using my tactic now?

>>>>> It's quite easy though. While packing the mobs, always cast Energy Glyph + Fire Attunement and Lava Font as soon as the Glyph is ready. That gives you an extra +11 energy per glyph. So each time you start attacking a grouped pack, you're at full energy and you can spam Lava Font freely. When I see that I'm under 20 mana after a SF chain with no Glyph ready, I just make a break and wait for it. That brings you around 45 energy in max 20 seconds...

I'm using this build (16 SA / 12 Fire; replacing Frigid Armor for Feigned Neutrality) with much success. While I have noticed event sweets are indeed helpful during a farm (my personal favorite being the Pumpkin Pies), they are completely optional. With a secondary weapon set of zealous/+5e/20% one-handed and fire off-hand (I do not recommend any +hp mods, as I often switch out for my staff once I kill a mob for the extra pip of energy regen while I herd the next bunch), I have no problems at all managing energy. The Pumpkin Pies I mentioned before make things much easier by increasing attack speed (and therefore energy gain), but once again I stress that they are optional, and having the zealous/off-hand set alone is enough for energy. Perhaps this may help. 122.57.161.134 07:17, 9 January 2009 (EST)

>>>>> Oh that's worth trying, I didn't even think about that. Noob inside... TT'

When you comment a comment, place indend using a : (:) for each following indend, one more, so the second comment is this: (::). Also please sign you comments by using four tilde's (~). Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 04:36, 13 January 2009 (EST)

[edit] brave version

Assassin / Elementalist 12 Fire Magic 12 + 1 + 3 Shadow Arts 3 Deadly Arts Glyph of Swiftness EotN Elementalist. Air Magic 0 Glyph of Swiftness Glyph For 15 seconds, your next 1 Spells recharge 25% faster, and projectiles from those spells move 200% faster. 10 1 5 Deadly Paradox Nightfall Assassin. Deadly Arts 3 Deadly Paradox Stance All of your attack Skills are disabled for 10 seconds. For 7 seconds, your Assassin Skills activate and recharge 33% faster. 10 15 Shadow Form Factions Assassin. Shadow Arts 16 Shadow Form Elite Enchantment Spell For 22 seconds, all hostile Spells that target you fail and all attacks against you miss, but you deal 33% less damage. When Shadow Form ends, lose all but 53 Health. 45 1 10 Lava Font Prophecies Elementalist. Fire Magic 12 Lava Font Spell For 5 seconds, foes adjacent to the location where this Spell was cast are struck for 41 fire damage. 4 2 10 Glyph of Lesser Energy Core Elementalist. Energy Storage 0 Glyph of Lesser Energy Glyph For the next 15 seconds, your next 2 Spells cost 10 less Energy to cast. 30 1 5 Burning Speed Factions Elementalist. Fire Magic 12 Burning Speed Enchantment Spell For 5 seconds, you are set on fire and move 42% faster. When Burning Speed ends, all adjacent foes are set on fire for 8 seconds. ¼ 10 Fire Attunement Core Elementalist. Fire Magic 12 Fire Attunement Enchantment Spell For 55 seconds, you are attuned to Fire. You gain 1 Energy plus 30% of the base Energy cost of the Skill each time you use Fire Magic. 45 2 10 Optional Core No Profession. Unlinked Optional Optional Optional. Template code

sorry about the bar. i dont know how to make the mini one. but with zealous dagger/scythe i have not really seen any decrease in speed of killing the mindblades as with gole i find it hard to use up my energy before it reaches max. thoughts? ƃuoן sı ʇɐɔƃuoן 12:29, 29 January 2009 (EST)

Attributes

The attributes listed are not possible. Water Magic should be listed as 2(instead of 6) or 0 with Deadly Arts at 3(instead of 2). 99.236.240.156 15:00, 5 February 2009 (EST) Nevermind, brain fart. 99.236.240.156 15:04, 5 February 2009 (EST)

[edit] An idea

I'm about to test this right now. If u had superior runes on all armor (105 hp) and use a totem axe with the -50hp grim cesta, you would have 55 hp. Since you need to have under 100 hp for things not to scatter, i think this could make it so u dont have to decrease ur health. Just and idea.--Vgfanatic2 22:05, 7 February 2009 (EST)

I would be interested to see the results. from what i understand scattering is dependent on whether or not you are below a certain percentage of your maximum health. You can see this when you 55 monk a group of 4 or more melee enemies. one will scatter to gain health while the others attack.--Jarad the Devarkin 00:38, 8 February 2009 (EST)

Dude, just wall hug the things. Life 00:40, 8 February 2009 (EST)

Yeah, I kinda knew it wouldn't work. My ideas never work. But hugging the wall doesn't stop the scatter of AOE damage.--Vgfanatic2 08:45, 8 February 2009 (EST)

wall hugging stops scatter from radiation field. not sure why it wouldnt work for lava font--Undead paragon 07:00, 11 February 2009 (EST)

[edit] Slightly Outdated?

This build still works but needs adjusting since the recent shadowform changes (likewise the build useage as well) since you have to have 16 shadow arts (so put fire magic down to 11) otherwise you have about 1.5secs to recast it, and also needs a 1/1- +5e +20%ench Scythe for energy management while killing. Sane rawr rawr 13:08, 11 February 2009 (EST)

After testing it with a scythe with the mods I stated, this works extremely well again, only problem is that at the start when you have to clear the grasps, you have to pull them away from the aatxe's otherwise there ripostes will hurt you through shadowform, but appart from that, you should (with a little practice) have more than the energy to re-cast shadowform and spam your skills. Sane rawr rawr 13:48, 12 February 2009 (EST)

I used Zealeus Dagger with 20% enchant mod for the exact same Aataxe reason, more effortless run ftw. --Anonimous. D: 14:23, 12 February 2009 (EST)

[edit] lol?

"An experienced player can complete the run in around 30 minutes." no one can do this under one hour...exept hacking the game. Illoyon 15:46, 14 February 2009 (EST)

that part is just that no one has really edited that section since the nerfs and changes to the run/area of interest Funkopotomis 07:40, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Does anybody even use this anymore??

Its to slow hard to run over traps od benemoths,even with scythe its hard to maintan energy and take forevah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!< The guy taht wrote the first comment XD

Occasionally i still run it but i have taken out frigid armor for shadow refuge so i can burn more, it seems to work better that way for me, But yes it is slow and boring :( ... T1Cybernetic 13:05, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Archive this plx, it's not worth using anymore, there are alot faster versions on PvX already. — DarK 15:35, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

"there are alot faster versions on PvX already" What?? For Chaos Plains? The most ecto heavy area in the game......Show me these faster builds then. (not UWSC) --Sam6555 15:42, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Build:A/E Planes SC. Quote from build page: "One full CP run with everything is 40~45 minutes. Without statue and dryders it's about 30 minutes". There you go. I've tested the build (I actually use a variant of this, already used it before this build ever came onto PvX), and it does work quite faster compared to this. Most ppl hardly complete this in under one hour. — DarK 17:42, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Seen it. ;) Requires an essense and walking backwards. So although you move faster..you are walking backwards alot of the time. :( Might try it out sometime though, thanks to being able to trade ecto for essense 1:1 --Sam6555 18:43, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

I have been using the Planes SC build sence the guy puted it on testing build.Its alot faster and i ussaly get around 6-14 ectos a run takes me 40-55 mins to clear everythign and 2 essences.But its worth it i guess.<The same guy ho wrote the first coment XD

Yes, that is very worth it. Lets say going by your 6-14 range lets say 9 average. This means you can trade those 9 for another 9 essenses, then do another nine runs. 9 runs x 9 ectos = 81 =D Also IMO I find the UW to be a fun place to farm, doesn't really get boring. :) --Sam6555 17:55, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Thats what i am saying i got 90 ectos in 1 day from This Planes SC build and if i did it with this build i would take 100000000 days to get that many ectos + energy managing is great.And before peopel say The Planes SC build is shit suck my stack of ectos abit then i will see ur new awnser. UW FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!< The guy ho wrote the first comment saying he wrote it in seccond comment XD (Lol i rly neeed a acc here XD) well then couldn't you just get a script and have the computer run this for you whilst you're afk and doing smoethign worthwhile? just make sure you have enough essences? Exo Oo 12:02, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

I think having a thing like that for it to do the run for you would break the rules and get your account permabanned, don't even try it. Also use the indenting when making comments. You indent by adding a colon at the begining of your comment 1st comment uses no colon second uses 1, third uses 2 and so on. I haven't actually used this build yet, but I used to alot of CP farming when the MoR build was good (remember merching 38 ectos or so back then X.X) Now I mainly partake in UWSC and have around 630ectos. But for you own safety, do not attempt to use a program for playing the game for you...it also takes the fun out by being lazy. =) Have fun. :) --Sam6555 12:15, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

why did you just tell me how to indent...? and couldn't you do a script where it purposely took a long time to do the run, then they wouldn't notice? Exo Oo 18:26, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Purely cos you didn't do it for your last 2 comments......anyways. They don't think OMG they're taking their time farming that, must be a real person. They look for the behavoir of your character. --Sam6555 18:30, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Make it run as if it was a human? and also make it so it does 3 sllightly different runs then link them up Exo Oo 18:42, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Are you seriously continuing this conversation?!!?!?!?! --Sam6555 18:45, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Archive this.

Outdated... Needs archive, plx. — DarK 19:06, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

No, not at all this is still good. Leave it :) --Sam6555 20:27, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

You can even use it to farm vaettir:D. Janlijm 17:46, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

This build was never very good, burning takes too long, and no you cannot farm vaettir with it because they are resistant to elemental damage. I agree this build is useless now. I can update it to a non-essence build that is still fast, or else can we archive and start a new page? Impulsion

well it is one of the few builds that can farm the Chaos Planes which would be my main issue with archiving it. I agree that vaettir farming is a stretch since you are getting the majority of your damage from burning. Since this is a Generic name it seems like it would be better to discuss modifications to the build to speed it up.--Jarad the Devarkin 05:30, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

OK, I'm going to update the entire page to a current fast build. It is quite different (no burning speed which is the key of this build), so feel free to revert and start a new page and archive this one Impulsion

Quick question, how do you reliably past the grasping blackness'. I die about 1/2 of every runs before i get to the planes purely because the blackness' just shock me to death. Am i missing something. Also is it meant to take ~40 seconds to kill each group

You shouldn't ever have to aggro the charged blacknesses. Before you run past the first set of behemoths wait for the group of charged to come down the hill then back up, then follow them. This way you will not aggro them, and as long as you don't wait around the 2nd group will be far away when you cross their patrol path. If you take too long however they will move back and stop in front of the entrance to chaos plains in which case you have to run past them and may die ~~

[edit] Cmon

Even tho u posted this new bar still isent worth it maybe 2 runs of 15 are sucesfull cos benemoth traps allways kill u rly has no points needs dash

A)sign your comments with 4 tildes B) u obviously have bad luck as its the exact opposite for a lot of ppl. i ran the chaos planes run pre-nerf and post-nerf, out of the hundred or so runs I finished, I was only blocked by the behemoths 10 times tops. and even if you are blocked you still have ataxes you can farm so your 1k isn't wasted. I personally would run it without fire attunement and add in dash since it makes running to the chaos planes easier. you can recoup energy with a zealous scythe or daggers.--Jarad the Devarkin 19:26, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

This build is way to slow to be worth your time, there are plenty of better builds out there right now. As I said/asked before, someone please archive this... — DarK 10:19, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

This build is pretty good speed I manage to kill 8 rider spawns in the 1 essense. So thats 8 riders, 16 wailing lords, 144 mindblades (and also about 6 terrorwebs from pools entrance) So you cannot say this build is slow. MoR+each skill with font twice kills graspings and wailing+riders. 1 of each skill(except MoR) and 2 extra font, renew SF, then 1 of each with an extra 1 font kills all the mindblades. --Sam6555 12:26, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Ohhh shit........I thought this was the planes build that used an essense.....oopsie. Ignore this comment above. --Sam6555 12:27, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

This isn't too slow to be worth the time; the money/time ratio is not great but it's still OK and it is the fastest way of farming ecto. Impulsion

It is a long run, and unless a person wants to go spend the time and money to create or buy essences, this is the only real option to farm Chaos Planes. --Jarad the Devarkin 05:12, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Guys, stop crying over how long this farm takes. It's still pretty good for money. Sure I am one of you that didn't particularily like the hex breaker nerf, but it did have to be done. People were overfarming ectos. Worse than UWSC currently is. --Sam6555 07:03, 3 July 2009 (UTC) I dident say its slow i just say it need soem runnign stuff liek dash to pass over traps or cupcakes<the guy ho wrote teh first comment XD

Sure you can add cupcakes, i do it myself sometimes. The problem is that once you reach the Chaos Plains the Mindblades break aggro right away as long as the cupcake is on, but you can avoid this by walking backwards. Its useful but really not necessary, i myself only nomnom a cake if the first group of behemoths is already a bad spawn which i cant pass without speed boost (but that situation really barely happens... the way is blocked about 1 out of 10 times at best). wallhug ftw :) Looks like Breitschleif 21:36, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Obsidian Faggotry

I haven't played this game for like almost a year, came back decided to give this farm a chance. Literally every run I have done in the past half hour has been either body blocked or trap blocked by the behemoths. Everyone on the discussion page says only 1/10 runs are, but that's bs, imo...I have a personal vendetta against cons, because I don't think I should waste half my earnings on them. So is there any way a run skill can fit into the current build? - ^We_Heart^Katamari 02:22, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

sure, as I suggested in the above section, if you take zealous weapons to recoup energy between spell castings when actually killing stuff, you can drop fire attunement for dash or dark escape. I would recommend practicing using zealous mods (scythe is best if used against multiple clumped foes)to maintain energy while casting spells before paying the 1k to go down there and screw it up. I personally do not use this exact build since I find no need to spam much more than lava font when you drop and maintain your hp below 50 when you are at the planes to maintain aggro.

Assassin / Elementalist 12 Fire Magic 12 + 1 + 3 Shadow Arts 3 Critical Strikes Glyph of Swiftness EotN Elementalist. Air Magic 0 Glyph of Swiftness Glyph For 15 seconds, your next 1 Spells recharge 25% faster, and projectiles from those spells move 200% faster. 10 1 5 Deadly Paradox Nightfall Assassin. Deadly Arts Deadly Paradox Stance All of your attack Skills are disabled for 10 seconds. For 5..13..16 seconds, your Assassin Skills activate and recharge 33% faster. 10 15 Shadow Form Factions Assassin. Shadow Arts 16 Shadow Form Elite Enchantment Spell For 22 seconds, all hostile Spells that target you fail and all attacks against you miss, but you deal 33% less damage. When Shadow Form ends, lose all but 53 Health. 45 1 10 Glyph of Lesser Energy Core Elementalist. Energy Storage 0 Glyph of Lesser Energy Glyph For the next 15 seconds, your next 2 Spells cost 10 less Energy to cast. 30 1 5 Fire Attunement Core Elementalist. Fire Magic 12 Fire Attunement Enchantment Spell For 55 seconds, you are attuned to Fire. You gain 1 Energy plus 30% of the base Energy cost of the Skill each time you use Fire Magic. 45 2 10 Lava Font Prophecies Elementalist. Fire Magic 12 Lava Font Spell For 5 seconds, foes adjacent to the location where this Spell was cast are struck for 41 fire damage. 4 2 10 Optional Core No Profession. Unlinked Optional Optional Optional. Dash Factions Assassin. Unlinked Dash Stance For 3 seconds, you run 50% faster. 8 5 Template code

your optional could be Ebon Battle Standard of Honor or Phoenix. hope this helps as this is closer to what I personally run. as for your luck with the behemoths, you are apparently having a bad luck streak because from personal experience it has never been that bad for me. if it does just kill ataxes for ectos, and speaking of which, do not attack those for energy, deadly riposte will eat you for breakfast. --Jarad the Devarkin 04:44, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Assassin / Elementalist 12 Fire Magic 12 + 1 + 3 Shadow Arts 3 Critical Strikes Glyph of Swiftness EotN Elementalist. Air Magic Glyph of Swiftness Glyph For 15 seconds, your next 1..3..3 Spells recharge 25% faster, and projectiles from those spells move 200% faster. 10 1 5 Deadly Paradox Nightfall Assassin. Deadly Arts Deadly Paradox Stance All of your attack Skills are disabled for 10 seconds. For 5..13..16 seconds, your Assassin Skills activate and recharge 33% faster. 10 15 Shadow Form Factions Assassin. Shadow Arts 16 Shadow Form Elite Enchantment Spell For 22 seconds, all hostile Spells that target you fail and all attacks against you miss, but you deal 33% less damage. When Shadow Form ends, lose all but 53 Health. 45 1 10 Glyph of Lesser Energy Core Elementalist. Energy Storage 0 Glyph of Lesser Energy Glyph For the next 15 seconds, your next 2 Spells cost 10 less Energy to cast. 30 1 5 Lava Font Prophecies Elementalist. Fire Magic 12 Lava Font Spell For 5 seconds, foes adjacent to the location where this Spell was cast are struck for 41 fire damage. 4 2 10 Fire Storm Core Elementalist. Fire Magic 12 Fire Storm Spell Create a Fire Storm at target foe's location. For 10 seconds, foes adjacent to that location are struck for 29 fire damage each second. 30 2 10 Burning Speed Factions Elementalist. Fire Magic 12 Burning Speed Enchantment Spell For 5 seconds, you are set on fire and move 42% faster. When Burning Speed ends, all adjacent foes are set on fire for 8 seconds. ¼ 10 Fire Attunement Core Elementalist. Fire Magic 12 Fire Attunement Enchantment Spell For 55 seconds, you are attuned to Fire. You gain 1 Energy plus 30% of the base Energy cost of the Skill each time you use Fire Magic. 45 2 10 Template code

I have done 40min runs with this build, but it is a bit slower as you don't get any burning on the mindblades. Burning speed of course runs you over traps like dash does. Impulsion

[edit] It wont work

How am i supposed to kill graspings before they start draining my energy? It says you can get a 20% half recharge but that only by chance and i dont even use a staff? so basically if youre unlucky youre screwed?

No, you just have to learn how to use your weapon sets. Use a low weapon set with enchanting mods to start with, and if you don't get Half Skill Recharge and they drain your energy, switch to your high energy set so you can still have enough energy to maintain Shadow Form. + ℓγssάή [rage] 17:53, September 6, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Trouble getting to the chaos plains

I can't even get to the damn chaos planes anymore... the trappers are blocking the path up the mountains every time I go in... anyone else having this problem?--98.203.159.103 01:56, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

You are just unlucky unfortunately. -- Drah 02:10, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

On the other hand I would see this as fortunate since it was my primary source of income =P thanks--Pronoob5 01:25, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

Tip: When you ball up a lot of mindblades, to not cause scatter at start, walk in their fighting range backward. It always worked for me.--ValeV

[edit] Nerfed

this build has been nerfed by the update

Be more specific. --Sam6555 10:19, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Skeleton of Dhuum spawn?

I've used this build successfully in the past and made some bank off it. Today I was using it but in the first room a Skeleton of Dhuum spawned in a spot I have never seen it spawn before. This happened twice in a row. This presented problems because the skeleton has attacks which get through Shadow Form and can kill you quickly. He seems to patrol, so it may be possible to avoid him. But still, I have never seen him spawn there before. Is this new/are you guys aware of this/is it easily avoidable? 72.84.170.4 22:31, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

it's because of the Halloween quests. Life Guardian 23:08, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Build still works no essence needed times 40min-50 min curently has problems cos of Skeletons Of Dhuum wich will be removed (hopefully) when halloween is over so farming with this is in a stop till monday

Sorry, Dhuums will stay in the game, even after the halloween. It's been confirmed. Check the GWW or something. It was nerfed because of UWSC over-farming. Juze, 84.249.26.52 13:16, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Its true in that case start the archiving pls there is no point of these build being in great and people waisting money to get skills and eqipment if it doesent work

[edit] Build seems to be obsolete

This build needs to be scrapped, unless there is a way around the Skeletons of Dhuum. I was actually one of those nubs looking for riches and finally got all the skills the day it was nerfed. Damn updates. Now its back to Dervish farming. Unless you guys have any better ideas for getting cash as fast as this used to.

[edit] Still Hope?

I'm sure you could still work with this build, if you avoid the Skeletons. It might take a lot longer, but I think it can be done. I'm going to test it.

Avoiding them is a big waste of time. So is this build, now. — DarK 16:51, November 8, 2009 (UTC)